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Old 27-09-2008, 03:14 PM   #1
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The Telmicro situation presently seems to be going on and on, bit like east enders but with a believable story line.

Anyone missing the TV, trust me the BBC latest effort at a game show must have come from the imagination of a two year old past afternoon nap time. The hole in the wall game show, is so unbelievable dire, you have to watch it to see what junk those paying a TV license are funding and the fact someone gets payed for producing such rubbish instead of being taken out and shot.

The latest offering in the Costa Blanca News throws more light into the present situation, but not much more than people already know.

Interesting none the less, because they now have details of how to add more evidence to the Telmicro court case. I have made that paragraph stand out, so people do not miss it.

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Guardia Civil blow whistle on huge illegal operation
By Nuria Pérez
BRITISH TV rebroadcasters Telmicro Levante SL committed fraud worth an estimated 500 million euros, the Guardia Civil revealed this week.

The company, which had 60,000 clients from Alicante to Almería, had been broadcasting channels without paying for programme rights and failing to declare earnings to the tax man.

The Guardia Civil sent out a press release on Wednesday giving full details of Operation Cimitarra which came to a head on August 12 when officers swooped on Telmicro premises around the Costa Blanca.

The investigation started after a legal representative of Sogecable – which owns the Spanish subscription channel Digital + – presented a formal complaint against Telmicro for broadcasting Sky Sports without licence.

Sogecable sells Spanish football and other contents to Sky and in return Sky sells rights to the Premier League and UK sporting events to Sogecable.

During the investigation the Guardia Civil judicial police from Torrevieja found that Telmicro was involved in further illegal activities and the judge of Torrevieja’s court number 1 imposed a secrecy order on the investigation.

According to the press release, Telmicro Levante SL and its two sub companies Cina Electrónica SL and Ángel Seguridad y Telecomunicaciones SL defrauded 500 million euros.

A total of 14 people – eight Spaniards, three Brits, one Belarusian, a Romanian and a Russian – were arrested and later released after paying bail of between 6,000 to 100,000 euros.
They have been accused of crimes against copyright, continued fraud and a crime against the Treasury.

ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES

Telmicro had signed a contract with several private channels to rebroadcast their programmes to 17,000 clients, when in reality they had more than 60,000 viewers.

Of these, around 43,000 were paying in cash.

According to the Guardia Civil the private channels lost million of euros and the Treasury was losing around 750,000 euros each month.
Moreover Telmicro was re-broadcasting UK subscription channels illegally.

Telmicro de-coded Sky’s signal through Sky cards that had been purchased in the UK and then re-coded Sky’s signal through its own equipment.

A source close to the investigation said: “The cards were allowed to be used by people living in the UK for domestic purposes.

“However Telmicro is a TV company established in Spain which was using the decoders to rebroadcast a signal.

“This activity is illegal and Telmicro was the sole beneficiary.

“Neither Sogecable nor Telmicro nor the Treasury were getting a penny of it.”

UNCERTAIN FUTURE

Telmicro’s main office in Algorfa has been dismantled and all equipment, including the aerials, is being kept as evidence by the Guardia Civil.
According to an official source, Telmicro is unlikely to broadcast in the coming months, as this decision must be taken by a judge during the court proceedings.

The Guardia Civil has also stated that TV re-broadcasting companies are allowed in Spain.

However they are not allowed to re-broadcast subscription channels under any circumstances.

Also they must always provide the client with an official invoice.
A Guardia Civil officer stated: “The re-broadcast of British non-subscription channels is allowed.

“Even the re-broadcast of private channels such as Fox or Street 13 is allowed if they pay these channels for the real number of clients and they pay the compulsory taxes and re-broadcasting rights.

“I advise expats to always ask their local TV re-broadcasting company for an invoice which must include the company name, address and CIF number and the service they are paying for.

“Telmicro was giving a simple receipt which is useless.

“And never sign a contract with a company re-broadcasting Sky.”

All expats who feel they have been affected by Telmicro’s illegal activities can join the judicial proceedings by presenting a formal complaint in any Guardia Civil station by including the file number (número de dilengias previas) 2737/08.

The BBC, who stated that it is illegal to rebroadcast its public service channels in Spain without a licence, is currently studying the information provided by the Guardia Civil.

In a further twist this week Telmicro clients have complained of receiving cold calls from rival broadcaster Torresat offering change-over packages.

A Telmicro client told CBNews he was astonished that Torresat had been able to obtain his private mobile phone number and questioned how the company had got the information.
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The Costa Blanca News have managed to give some break down of the 500 million figure that keeps getting brandished around and you can see that a big part, is for not paying fees to those companies they have been rebroadcasting television channels from.

If sky cant notice Telmicro using hooky sky cards, there must be a good chance of others not being detected.

This next bit from the above seems a bit misleading going from my own understanding of the shit hitting the fan with telmicro

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The Guardia Civil has also stated that TV re-broadcasting companies are allowed in Spain.

However they are not allowed to re-broadcast subscription channels under any circumstances.

Also they must always provide the client with an official invoice.
A Guardia Civil officer stated: “The re-broadcast of British non-subscription channels is allowed.
According to BBC and ITV etc in recent press, it is illegal to broadcast their channels if any encryption equipment is used. And also illegal to rebroadcast their stations outside of the UK, because of licenses etc

Putting the boot into Telmicro at the local Guardia police station is down to personal choice. A lot of people are out of pocket, some had payed their full fees a day or two prior to them going down. No one by the sounds of it will get any kind of refund.

It also makes you wonder what Torresat will be doing with all the Telmicro contracts they have taken from ex Telmicro customers

In my own personal opinion, they had done the British Expats on the Costa Blanca a good service and even though I'm now a convert to the satellite dish, I still hope they will one day return.
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I know there are alot of complaints about them from people but we all knew it was dodgy and could shut down at anytime

We bought a basic spanish freeview box which my daughter is happy about as its got disney channel, which we didnt have before, some programs in english some in spanish so its helping her.

Get all mine from the net anyway as cant stand watching a show then having adverts interrupt it.......ah the power of the internet
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