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This is a discussion on Brocock conversions within the Shooting and Airgun Forum Spain, Spanish shooting advice and discussions. , Originally Posted by ozzie ..just for interest sake..... what do they do here in the deact process ?? I've got a fair handle on the old spec /new spec differences ...

 



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Old 29-08-2008, 02:30 AM   #11
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..just for interest sake..... what do they do here in the deact process ?? I've got a fair handle on the old spec /new spec differences in the UK...
There doesn't seem to be any consistent standard, the worst ( or best, depending on your point of view ) only have the barrel buggered up in some sort of way, like a hole drilled in the chamber, or just forward of the chamber. Sometimes a pin might be welded into the hole. Locking surfaces and breech face are intact. Maybe the firing pin is missing or has the tip ground off.

The most diligent deactivations seem to be of the UK pre-95 spec, i.e breech face\bolt ground off at an angle and locking surfaces removed, slide rails on pistols milled away for most of their length.

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It was one of those things that come up in conversation, asking Sid how easy it was to convert a real gun to an airgun, after seeing similar on egun.
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Sid then explained what would need to be done and asked if there was a market for anything like that.

This was dipping your toe in the water as such and seeing what kind of feed back there was.

If you have an idiot breaking into your house and they know that real guns are legal. They are not going to stop and ask if the AK47 being pointed at them is real or a Sid conversion. And if it goes bang, they will run just that bit faster

They will be more interested in a sharp exit to change their pants.

Then you have the novelty value. I have a Uberty Yellow Boy here which is fully authentic down to weight etc but fires the Brocock tacs as opposed to live ammo. Great for wall display, plus fun for the garden.

So you then have a display item which is not a deac, goes bang but don't kill

There was an M16 on egun once that had the blow back or what ever you call it, fully functional with the tacs.

Imagine the grin factor of something like that

Sid is a top gunsmith and very respected for his work in the UK
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I suppose El Cid might find a niche market here amongst British expat shooters here ... (I heard the figure of 1 million Brit expats live in Spain ...bandied about ....would that be correct?)......

what a shame El Cid isnt in OZ....i've at least 1/2 doz 'smithing jobs i need doing....from rebarelling to pillar bedding to rechambering..........a good 'smith is hard to find !

...as you know being from OZ ....in some ways i am blessed ...( i have 2 doz rifles back home and several properties up to 70,000 acres in size to roam on....we dont have seasons or bag limits on bunnies hares foxes goats pigs etc and you can shoot them day or night... summer or winter with anything from an air rifle up to a 50 cal !......

..and .....we still have most of our pistols.....revolvers must have a 4inch barell and semi autos ...5 inches..... semi auto mag capacity is now limited to ten shots though and calibres over 9mm/357...you need to shoot a 'special match' like metallic sil with a .45 1911 !!!!......

....however on the flip side .............they have taken the fun factor away by requiring air rifles to be registered and the shooter licensed.....air pistols have to go on your pistol license too !!!! so why bother with a Umarex Beretta or 1911 when you have to jump through the same hoops for the real deal !!!!

we cant hang air rifles (let alone any sort of firearm) on the wall any more either ...have to be locked up in that 3mm steel safe....

......and air softs and deacts !!.... they are prohibited weapons !!!!!

....so it's swings and roundabouts.....I guess...

....the Brocock Yellow Boy does sound like fun though....
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There doesn't seem to be any consistent standard, the worst ( or best, depending on your point of view ) only have the barrel buggered up in some sort of way, like a hole drilled in the chamber, or just forward of the chamber. Sometimes a pin might be welded into the hole. Locking surfaces and breech face are intact. Maybe the firing pin is missing or has the tip ground off.

The most diligent deactivations seem to be of the UK pre-95 spec, i.e breech face\bolt ground off at an angle and locking surfaces removed, slide rails on pistols milled away for most of their length.

You should post more

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....Ah Ha ....I guess they rely on the average Spaniards lack of imagination and skill with DIY !!!!!.......pity my milling machine is back home !!!!!

....A few years ago in Oz (and in true devious convict Aussie style) a major gunshop in Queensland was selling deact pistols...and that only entailed spot welding the slide to the frame in a few 'dremell toolable' blobs...a steel rod was substituted for the barrel......2 foot away along the counter a bag of goodies could be purchased including the barrel, springs etc...

....it took the Antipodean Bill a year or two to 'cotton on' !!!!...a Police raid stopped that little earner (but apparently they were acting within the guidelines for deacts at the time !!!!)

Oh and by the way ...back home Chopper Reid does a stand up comedy act with a bloke called Jacko (an ex-aussie rules football hero !!)....they tour around the club circuit to packed houses !!!!....and who said crime doesnt pay !!!!

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PS did you guys see that email doing the rounds of Charlton Hestons collection ????
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